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Voluma girth enlargement in UK

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Hi all, i have been watching the forum for a few years (and manual PE forums before that) and having been weighing all the pros and risks decided to go for voluma injections. Voluma lasts for 18 months so I liked the idea of trying out the results from fillers without worrying about the permanent risks from PMMA. Also some of the PMMA experiences in the last 2 years here in the forum seem to be negative and i've been reading that gains diminish very soon, with some saying they went back to original size in weeks.

So today i had 15 injections of voluma (15ml). i was hoping to go from 7x5.25 to 7x6.25 but having come out of the procedure I think it will be much less. It was quick and painless with local anaesthetic but there is ALOT of bruising and its very lumpy. Apparently voluma can be massaged for 3-4 days to get rid of lumps and get the desired shape.

Being uncircumcised I really hope I don't get the donut look and also that the filler will not be detectable by moving up and down together with the skin (although unfortunately from what I can feel so far I think it will do).  

I will post pics soon.

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My journey began today (18.02.2017) / Dr. Nemeckova @ Prague

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So I finally took the big jump and I'm now about 5 hours post operation writing this at the Prague airport Cafe waiting my flight back to home (Finland) which leaves in two hours.



Some of you may know that I've been planning, investigating and contemplating what to do for a little bit over a year now. I kinda knew I'd do this at some point but had to do the proper reading & homework before going in. I just needed to be sure and get my mindset right.



Also my gf's attitude towards this whole thing has been 'overly neurotic'. We have argued a lot about this..



For months she didn't even want to listen to me if I wanted to talk about this. She didn't want to read or hear anything about PMMA and she was 100% convinced that this forum must be a scam and none of these journals here are true. Rigged system and the doctors who do PMMA penile enhancement are writing all of these journals just to get more patients. It's very hard to have a conversation from that basis...



After a year of arguing and getting the hard time from her I kinda forced her to have the neccessary conversation when I booked my flights and told her that I am going to do this. This is for ME and I can do it with or without you. Then she finally started to open up for a conversation. I explained her everything I know about the PMMA. About the concentrates (10% vs. 30%), what to expect, about the after-care etc. etc. and finally got some understanding and support.



I'd call myself a realist and I won't expect that the end result is going to be 100% perfect. I know this and I am more after the size increase than absolutely perfect looks and feel. Still wanted to play it the "safe way" and chose 10% concentrate.



Most likely I am doing every round with 10%. I am happy if I'll get more girth in general. No need to fixate on a specific numberic value or have a goal. Just get what you can and do it safest possible way.



I have always got the length (some would say plenty of it) but I was not as blessed with the girth department.



My stats pre-PMMA

BPEL: 19.5 - 20cm = 7.75 to 8.0 inches

MEG: 11.5 - 12cm = 4.5 to 4.7 inches



Always felt that my dick looked like a pencil and I've been ashamed of it since my teens. Long and very thin especially with that length.



Round 1 - 18.2.2017 - Dr. N:

15cc's @ 10%



I am considering it a big win if round 1 gives me 0.3 inches of more girth. I'll take what I can get



Here are some pictures pre-PMMA and about 5 hours after the round 1. Will update my journal about the healing process later but now I have a plane to catch



- Heimdall



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Should I go for round 2?

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I have plans to make a full report on my experiences, but I was hoping to wait until it was all done.  I was pretty gung ho about a second round but now am starting to have doubts.  I'd like to know what you all think.

Pre-treatment/natural pictures and specs:
BPEL:7", Base Girth:4.5" Mid Girth: 4.25" BehindGlansGirth: 4.5"
To me this dick always felt like a pencil dick, though I never once had a complaint from a girl.  I am very lucky to have been born with the length.

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Round 1 was June 2016, 10/30% split linnea with dr. C and wade.  I also did a lot of stretching exercizes hoping to hit the holy grail of 8x6 eventually and had some pretty good success.  Here are the results as of a few weeks ago:
BPEL: 7.5", Base Girth:5.75" Mid Girth: 4.75" BehindGlansGirth: 4.75"

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The base girth figure is pretty crazy, and I was trying to figure that one out.  I basically forced all the material into the base of my dick after the procedure.  It somehow caused my dick to protrude more and some of that girth is down to my sack.  This might seem like cheating, but during sex it goes in the girl and I can feel a considerable increase in girth when I go deep like this (comes with gasps).  I was religious about aftercare.  I set an alarm every 2 hours and kept an excel sheet, and stayed a full work week, seeing Wade daily.

I feel that this round has brought me from having a pencil dick to having a nice healthy dick and I'm super happy with the results.  I have been with some girls and none has remarked that I had a big dick, it was just kind of normal to them.  I really would like to have the big dick experience.  I'd love to excite and surprise girls with the size of my penis.  I think I have a fetish for this and it would just make my day (year? life?) to hear it.  Maybe this isn't sound motivation, but it's mine.  However, I feel round 1 went exceptionally well.  I don't think I had a single problem or complication.  Looking around and seeing the propensity for issues is scaring me, and honestly I don't know if I have the mental fortitude to deal with some of them.  I am so damn impressed by the guys on here who have major setbacks and stick with it.  Hats off to you fellas, you are strong men.


On the other hand I see some people dissatisfied with imperfections and think to myself "Damn you have a nice big dick!  I wouldn't care about a bump or two here and there, go slay it!"  In the rare event a girl notices while shes busy moaning just say you have a benign calcium buildup or something.  "Always been there."

So here we are:
1) Do you think I should go for round 2?

2) 10% or 30% or some kind of mix or split?  Id love to see at least 5" and preferably 5.5"-6" girth around midish.  Base, the sky is the limit as far as I'm concerned, you can always just not use it.  But again, imperfections and nodules scare me, and maybe I'm being unreasonable.

3) If I went for round 2 what do you think the ideal transition for my small glans to thicker shaft would look like?  I worry about my small glans and how the overall shape of my dick would look with more size.  However, pre round 1 I had all these same fears and after the change I feel it looks totally normal, but it was a small gain fore and mid. 

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Entry points bleeding/ oozing for days

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I would like to know the consensus on what to do with bleeding and oozing entry points?

I was told to squeeze on them for the first day or so, but this has continued into a week now and it interrupting my massage technique.  It is fine balance of massage versus making the entry point ooze out a reddish liquid, with pmma crystals coming out as well.  I know there are pmma spheres coming out, as when I spread it on a paper towel, I can see them reflect in the light like crystals.

Should I just massage very well, and let this all ooze out of the entry point?  It is just one entry point that is doing this.  I fear of losing product if I do so...

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Revision surgery advice plz?

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Hello,



I'd love to hear from someone who's either had a revision surgery or who understands the process.

~20 years or so ago I had a lengthening and a fat injection procedure in Chicago. Since then some of the fat has become lumpy and uneven and I'd like to correct it with bellederm.

Recently I reached out to a few doctors and one response I got mentions me possibly needing a fat removal procedure first followed by the belladerm replacement later?? :-(

It was very disappointing to me as obviously I'd have preferred to do it all at the same time. However, if this would make it a better, more successful revision then I'll understand and will follow the advice.



I'd love to hear advice from people who've had something similar done in the past.



Also, any and all experiences on belladerm widening procedures and your advice and experiences in general.

Soma's story was very inspiring to me initially (that's why I signed up for this forum). Of course, his last comment replaced my hope with disappointment. :-(



Thank you for your time!

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I'm lost! :-(

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20 some years ago I had a fat injection and enlargement surgery.

The first 10 years I was pretty satisfied except the spongy feel (read below). Over the years though the shaft regressed a little. I used the weight for a few months only, basically it was impossible to do as I traveled a lot at the time.

Now when it's flaccid it's somewhat accordion or zig-zag looking. When erect I have several nodules at the bottom (near the glans). Also the fat is very spongy, it's always somewhat difficult to roll a condom on because it "sinks into" the spongy skin when I'm rolling it.



For years I kept hoping for a final "repair" surgery. I got busy, married, divorced, etc..

For the last few years I've been thinking about fixing it and then finally I decided it was time to do it.



I found this board, which I'm grateful for, but it also made me extremely depressed.

Basically most threads I've read so far start out somewhat positive and end with a "it didn't work" story.

- I feel like I have to redo the lengthening surgery as it's retracted. I wanted to replace the fat with aloderm or belladerm however, based on the feedback here it won't last. If I have the fat removed I'll have an excess of skin and a skinny dick.

- If I end up with PMMA, which is a new subject to me, I'm injecting silicone pellets under the skin and apparently there's already been a suspicious case of prostate cancer with PMMA in it.. The whole idea of squirt silicone into my body seems so risky, I remember a Brazilian case where a lady injected silicone directly into her butt to make it bigger and ended up dying from complications..



- For years I had this "one day I'll get it done" dream but after going through the many threads here I'm becoming very disillusioned and disappointed. Seems like no matter what I do it either won't last or has incredible risks or both..



I'd be willing to pay a LOT of money and put up with a lot of pain to finally have a symmetrical, good looking, ideally above average member but so many threads are roller coasters of positive experiences endING up turning into negative or pointless procedures.



I'm still glad I found this message board because I'm trying to learn from others but I'm literally lost..



I have to do something because the nodules and the unevenness of the fat transfers drive me nuts but I just don't know what to do..



I'm sorry I sound so negative but yeah, this is all very depressing..

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Chester's Length Progress Report

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Prior to my lig cut when I was 21 (I'm 42), I probably used to hang around 3" FL (I'm 4" FL). Shit bothered me to no end. The only time I've ever done hanging exercises was right after the lig cut and I did see some results. But I stopped after only a few weeks, as it was hurting my glans and didn't have much time then. I've tried stretching now and then but with very little results. Going through another stretching phase now, but this time with a better stretcher that feels sturdier and more comfortable. It's the X4 labs unit (recommended by CPW). I think comfort is the key to attaining growth. You really have to put in the time to see results. I also think that confusing the tissue with varying stress may also be effective. I've had the LG Hanger (recommended by Latin Log) for a couple months now, but used it for the first time yesterday. Hung a hammer from it between my legs. It was very comfortable. I'm buying one of those women's aerobic sets on Amazon (2-10 lbs) so I can hang smarter. My goal is 7" EL, currently at 6.3" - 6.4". If I can reach it, I've decided to reward that goal and treat myself to a filler procedure, with the girth increase goal of 0.5" - 0.75" (at 5.5" now). My overall goal is 7" EL x 6". As for filler material, I'm currently leaning towards Ellanse, so Subtle77's report is of particular interest to me. I'll update this report bimonthly with stats.

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Man Has Biggest Penis On Earth (pictures in link)


Yoyo's journey

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So I guess  it is time to start documenting my journey.

I have my first consultation with a doctor here in Malaysia next week.
From what I can gather, they only do HA as PMMA is not in Malaysia so far.

Starting stats.
EL6.5 EG 5 

I would like to be EG 6 is my goal.

Wish me luck  xxxx 

Thank you to you all  for the great advice,  you are the best.


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Naginati's Progress Log

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Hi guys,

I'm planning on going to Doctor N for PMMA.

I've done my research, this site has been increadibly valuable. I would not have got to this stage without it. I'm extremely grateful to you all.

I have already been messaging a few individuals for advice and people have been very supportive and helpful.

In particular, Southdub, jimbo22 and stiper2011 have all replied with detailed in depth adivice. You give your advice freely and I appreicate it.

I'm going to start a Progress log to give back what has been given to me.

I'm nervous about the whole thing but determined to do it.

Been waiting 2 weeks now for a reply from Dr N but I'm led to believe this is standard for her.

Starting at 6.75bpel, 5egb to 4.4 below glans. Constant taper. I have no specific size goal, just to gain size.

Any advice or just general discussion is welcomed.



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Silikon touch up session

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Hi all,

How many CCs of Slilikon does it typically take for a touch-up session by Dr C?  

Also, I've read some have gain 0.25" in girth from a touch-up session.    How many CCs would that take?  

Thanks for your insights,
CPW

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The million dollar post

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 Turning 40 in a couple days

  Lifelong dreamer of bigger things, 3 years in trial and error, here is the secret recipe you've all been looking for, when this mission started I was highly skeptical thought if there was a way id figure it out 100's hours research lots of trial and error in this one man mission I have never spoken of any of this before, never posted on any site before this is the first and best post you have ever read no failures, no hardships, only success and the holy grail of PE Explained I am fully aware what I am telling you is worth millions, I will withhold minor details to retain a patent of sorts on my journey but 90% is coming your way.  in lurking all the sites, Matters, GLL, Phallo and Thunders nothing of this sorts has been posted not even close consider. This is the biggest kept secret you may ever stumble on to...... I felt I have been very fortunatein life at for my 40th birthday present to myself I wanted to give something back....                     Here's my donation to the brotherhood

Starting PE 12/2014  starting stats and yes this is all very relevant as you will see

2.5 Flaccid length
3.75 Flaccid girth
5.75 Errect length " on a good day"
4.75 Errect girth

weight 290+

Here's the first chapter there will be between 7-10 to get as much detail to you guys

12/2014 Started manual exercises in shower 20-30 minutes per day  10 min stretching and 10-20 minutes Slow lubed Jelq 300 min 5 days  a week no true progress but better "shower" look

12/1/2014 Started working out 1st time in my life, 30 min cardio, 30 minutes weights 4 days a week began intense ab routines 200-300 machine crunches and leg lifts almost daily

Continued above process until 2/1/2015


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ALMI - Dr Tess

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Hi All, its been a fantastic reaource to have this site. For over a year I have been reading and lurking in the shadows. I live in LA and have been wanting to do a procedure for a long time. Im 7.5 el and 5.4 eg. (not sure about flacid as i am a major grower) i am in the entertainment industry in LA and read the trade articles here and came across a Dr Tess who says she performs ALMI fft procedure as well as The P shot. Has anyone ever had any experience with her? Shes in San Diego and comes to la. Im going in for consult on Friday. I want to get to around 6-6.25 girth safest way and most natural.



Here is article:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cosmetic-surgery-men-rise-los-angeles-972673

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Another HA Procedure and Progress thread!

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Hi All!

On the 15th I had a HA Voluma Juvaderm Procedure done by Androfil in London. Thanks to the guys posting on this site I also booked my appointment about a month ago and flew to London Last Saturday.

Some Background: 
I considered different options but preferred to go with something temporarily and reversible. I have been doing PE for many years mainly clamping, stretches and bends exercises with the occasional pumping and hanging. As I was no longer gaining much anymore I decided it was time for a change.

My pre-PE size was:

BPEL: 7.8 Inch
Mid Girth: 5.35 Inch

Pre HA size:
BPEL 8.2 inch
Mid Girth: 6.0 Inch
Flaccid lengh: varies from 4.5 - 6.5 Inches
Flaccid Girth: varries 5.3 inches on average

My Appointment was on the 15th of April at 3 PM. The clinic is located in a nice neighborhood with some good hotels nearby. They had me wait for a while in the waiting room. Francis then came and introduced himself and pulled me aside to the hallway between 2 closed doors to have a personal chat. He is a great guy.

After that I had my consultation with Dr. Horn who seems to be a good and professional doctor but of course less chatty than Francis.  I informed him I wanted 20 ML due to my current size.

He checked my flaccid hang which unfortunately shriveled up to a new record, made worse by my Turkey neck (penile Scrotal webbing). He then mentioned he could not do more than 14 ML. I was a little bit bummed out but I took his advice and went with the 14 ML.

One of his main worries was that it would end up in my foreskin.

They gave me the cream and 30 minutes later I was called back in to his office to start the procedure. I should say the shots towards the base still hurt quite a bit as probably I did not put enough cream there. Everything else went fine and I guess around 4.30 PM I was out of the office. They gave me some penicillin and supportive underwear.

I went to hotel, made myself comfortable and made sure my penis was upright. A few hours later around 7 PM My unit felt a bit sore but nothing major, I barely had any bruising and so I started to massage the lumps and within an hour or so I had all the lumps dissolved. 

I forgot to mention to the Doc that I have a minor curve to the left and would need more product there. Because of this my curve at this point seemed a bit worse as well as there seemed to be some unevenness between the amount of product on the left and the right side (more on the right).

Something they will need to correct on the 25th when I go back for my second round.

I went to sleep and woke up around 6 AM. All the bruising and swelling from injections was gone (I heal fast). No lumps returned and by the end of the day you could not even see anymore where the injections punctured the skin. 

My biggest surprised was how big it got and how amazing smooth and good it looked. My curve being almost gone as well. I measured my midshaft girth at 18 cm (7.1 inches) and my flaccid was massive as well though I did not measure it that day.

For a day or 2 it stayed slightly sore and I made sure to always sleep on my back for the first 4 nights and to always keep it upright. I also kept putting vaseline on it as well. I am happy to say I have no product in my foreskin and when I get an erection my foreskin retracts by itself.

One of the best things about HA is how much wider it makes your penis. I used to pump myself to about 7 inches girth at times but it would be more of a round shape. Now I am around 7 inches but with a wide shape and it just makes it look so much bigger.

Now on the 5th day (the 4th day after the procedure) I have measured the same size for the last 3 days:

BPEL: 7.7 inch. 
Midshaft Girth: 6.9 Inch (17.5 CM)
Flaccid Length: 6.5 Inch
Flaccid Girth: 6.3 inch

That correct I lost about 0.5 an inch in length. I personal think it is some turteling and perhaps my skin being tighter than normal and not being able to stretch like I normally do. Though One time I got a very good erection and it seemed I did have my normal length. I am not worried and I will get my length back.

It might seem that I gained a lot (if it sticks) for my size but Just to mention: I did not have anything injected in the base as my base due to the many years of clamping is already close to 7 inches in girth. This is a more oval shape so it does look thinner but not out of proportion. 

My head is about 2 inches long, the thick part of the base is also around 2 inches long. Then I have it somewhat tapered from the head towards the midshaft so really only 4 inches of Length needed to be injected which I guess explains why I gained quite a lot midshaft wise.

For round two I will get 20 ML. I need some extra product on the left side but after the product settled my curve is actually less than it has ever been and there is just 2 places where it has noticeable less product but only really when you feel it. It is hard to see with the eye.

I will post some pictures soon of the days of injection and the 1st day after and later this week I will try posting some follow up pics as well.




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Planning to go to Dr.N

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hey guys

I`m planning to get 15ml of 10% for my first round. (ok?)

1. However I´m 8 inch BPEL and 6.3 inch girth base and 5.5 behind glans.
The problem is Im not uncut AND soft my penis is much smaller I fear lumps or very uneven distribution of the pmma.
I really cant imagine how the pmma should distribute over the whole shaft as the penis is flaccid much more smaller than erect. Maybe we have some comment on here.

2. I really love manual PE like hanging,...I dont believe I want/can reduce that but I still fear the
danger of inflamation and cancer. But I believe its not more isky than HA on the longterm as the immune system is always fighting against HA/Pmma.
Maybe Dr. Oates or someone else can say more about this.
I have the feeling like this is the main point now against it...nodules,...are a less smaller problem

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Dry Orgasm Post PMMA Round 2

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I had round 2 with Dr C yesterday.  Everything seemed to be going well, lots of swelling but I expected that.  Was really horny, jerked off, and when I came, nothing came out!  That has never happened to me before.  Anyone ever heard of this?

So I googled up some dong anatomy and it looks like the point where the bladder and semen tubes diverge is pretty far away from the surface; up by the prostate.  I can still pee no problem at all.   A blockage of the vas deferens would still produce semen because the seminal vesicle would make the fluid for the sperm.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ejaculatory_duct_obstruction

the obstruction can be acquired due to an inflammation caused by chlamydiaprostatitistuberculosis of the prostate and other pathogens. 

So here's hoping this is down to swelling and inflammation due to the pmma injection.  I guess my fear is that a microdroplet got into the vas deferens and made it's way to the ejaculatory duct.  I'm seeing them this morning to see what they say, but I'm just pinging the community for experiences first.

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Procedure Etiquette

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Hey guys I just wanted to ask the pmma vets an embarrassing question; I am heterosexual but sometimes I get erections when I am nervous. Have any of you gotten hard when you were in Dr. C's chair and if you did how did the guys deal with it? I don't mean to be disgusting or weird I just want to be prepared for any possible experience if I get the procedure. Thanks to all the vets and mods for helping dudes like us out!

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Father and Son

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Hello fellow members, I am a longtime lurker first time user of this forum. I am a 52 year old carpenter who has had a longtime interest in PE. I have a generic vacuum pump that I fiddle with sometimes. My measurements are 6.5" BPEL and 5" EG all down my shaft and when I max out with the pump I am 7" BPEL and 5.4" EG. I have a satisfying sex life but now that I date women in their 40s that have had kids everything feels looser and it takes longer to orgasm. Also when I occasionally see young women I want to be their fantasy of an endowed powerful man and give them something different from the college guys.



After stumbling on this forum I want to pull the trigger for a round with Dr. C and get girthed up ( I am very healthy and willing to risk complications). But here is the tricky part I am dad with a 21 year old and 19 year old sons that live in the loft above my garage. We are as tight as a father and sons can be (there mom has always been out of the picture) and we share everything.



We have no secrets, we go camping, workout, eat together, and talk frankly about sex. We all see each other naked often and are about the same in the locker room department.



My 21 year old is a good lucking guy and an electrical apprentice. Since he turned 21 he goes to the clubs regularly and likes to pick up cougars and girls older than him. He has often told me that he likes experienced women and that he would love to really fill them up and satisfy them and I have had to admit I feel the same way.



I really want to do this but I know I can't hide it from my boys any way. I know if I have a good result they will be want to do it too since they look up to me and copy me (they both grew moustaches like mine as soon as they could).



So this is my crazy idea: I want to be honest with the boys and tell them what I am doing. If everything goes well for me I am considering giving the boys Girthdays with Dr. C as gifts for their 23rd and 21st birthdays instead of vacations. I know this sounds crazy but they are adults now and I know they will want to do it if it turns out for me. I figure I should supervise it and make sure that they don't go crazy trying to get huge instead of being a huge hypocrite.



I want to know what the fathers like CPW and young guys in their 20s like siddyb19 think of this. Be honest but please don't judge me too harshly.

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Massaging Too Much?

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Round 2 with PMMA and Dr. C seems to have gone pretty well for me.  I'm having a problem now though and I was hoping to get the communities perspectives and experiences on it.  

I stayed for a work week in Mexico basically massaging my dick the whole time on an alarm.  I did start feeling a hard mass near the base in the center, deep in there that I could never really break up, and I noticed a bulge center near base, but try as I might I couldn't massage the bulge away.  To me it is minor though.  You can see it in this picture down and left of my thumb, but above the middle finger:

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Everything below my finger has that hardness.  Even the skin texture is weird.  Being worried as shit about this, I've been massaging it a lot, and when I do i can make all but about a square inch of it right at the base go away, but then 5-10 minutes later its back like this.  

I cannot tell if I'm just irritating the bejesus out of my dick, causing this swelling, which means that fluid has no where to go and it becomes hard like this, or if I really need to be attentive to that hardness and massage it a lot lest it stick like that.  But I'm REALLY irritating it when I do that, and it's pretty damn painful.  I talked to Ian, he seemed to advocate for massaging and pumping but I had trouble explaining it over the phone.  

Anyone have experiences with this?  

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Lydon47 First PMMA procedure

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I am scheduled for my First PMMA round as well as PRP with Dr.C in three weeks. After reading members results, I am excited for the first procedure. My motivation for the procedure is not based on a feeling of having a small unit, but more to enhance what I already have. I am 7.5 bpel, 4.7-5.0 fl depending on the temperature and my hydration level. Girth, of which I've only had one woman say i was small She was a queen size) 5.6 at glans, 5.25 mseg, and 5.75 bg. 

I am hoping for a girth increase on .75-1.00 from the first round, and hopefully an additional .25-.3 from a second round.

My ideal goal would be 7.5-8.0 EL, with 6.5 MSEG, 7.0 BEG.

I will post pre-procedure pics shortly.

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